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  The lady of the harbor

  by stephenw20 in

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  the lady of the harbor.

  i stood alone in the harbor.

  i will stand alone in the harbor.

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  Wow, I am stunned..... what moving words.
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  WT says Don't look or hear news

  by Patriot in

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  i just got this from a witness who i bumped into yesterday.

  she is very disturbed by this announcement the congo.

  got on friday at their service meeting:.

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  individuals wife

  and a PS to Patriot...

  I cannot express my gratitude fully for all the work that you have been doing - I am filled with pride and admiration for you and all your fellow workers in the very difficult work that you have to do - I feel such a physical pain in my heart when I look at all the pictures on my television screen and I can only imagine the horror of the situation in which you find yourself working.

  You have my deepest respect. Take care.
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  WT says Don't look or hear news

  by Patriot in

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  i just got this from a witness who i bumped into yesterday.

  she is very disturbed by this announcement the congo.

  got on friday at their service meeting:.

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  dungbeetle - I couldn't agree with you more...

  WT needs no help from apostates...they hurt themselves all by themselves.

  .. putting down the blinds and telling the workers to carry on with their work...

  .. don't watch the news, it's what Satan wants..

  Just because they choose to block it out won't make the pain and suffering go away - their reaction (or the reaction of the majority)to this whole tragedy just makes me even more sure that they are not representatives of God or Jesus. Where is their compassion? Where is their empathy? Where are their Christ-like qualities? Did Jesus ever lock a door to someone facing adversity? No, he welcomed strangers with open arms and fed them, both nutritionally and spiritually. He never turned away anyone in need and yet it appears from all reports that this is just what Bethel did - locked their doors to keep the strangers away. They have a fear of man - they feared for their own safety - what happened to having a reliance on God?

  I know that there are still kind and good hearted witnesses out there, although I feel that they are misguided by remaining in a loveless organisation. The attitude of the others leaves a lot to be desired and I can only imagine what God thinks of them...
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  Afghan women under the Taliban

  by spider in

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  just found this site.

  http://mosaic.echonyc.com/~onissues/su98goodwin.html.

  it is pretty shocking stuff.. .

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  Spider

  Thank you for highlighting this - I read about the plight of women in Afghanistan a few months ago and ever since have felt so grateful for the freedoms that I myself have - it is very sobering to realise what these poor women have to go through every day. It is so easy to take for granted all the day to day things that we do as women - we have the freedom to come and go as we please with no worry about the sort of restrictions placed by the Taliban. We take for granted the power that we women have, the ability to go out and work in whatever field we choose, the ability to vote, the ability to simply walk to a nearby shop and purchase a few groceries.

  The legally mandated burqa has also become a severe financial hardship. The veil now costs the equivalent of five months salary-if any women were still receiving one. Most cannot afford to buy the garment, and whole neighborhoods must share one. It can take several days for a woman's turn to come round; even if she has money to shop for food, she can't go out until then.

  It is nearly impossible for a western woman to comprehend this - to be so under the thumb of a regime that you can't even go out in the street with a bare face to gather food for your family. It beggars belief. Yet it is really happening.

  It is hard to comprehend the fear that these women must feel, the terror that comes with knowing that if you step out of line then it means a severe punishment, even death. And with each generation of boys being taught that this is the right way to treat women - what hope is there for the futures of the women of Afghanistan. It makes my heart break. I can only hope that their suffering will not be allowed to continue, they needed to be treated with respect and dignity, not treated like second rate citizens.
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  Bethelites 'ordered to keep working'

  by bboyneko 2 in

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  my sister also forwarded some "experiences" from bethelites who .

  witnessed tuesday's events.

  they did put some coffee and sandwiches .

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  I am stunned... but frankly not surprised. It shows the uncaring attitude of the organisation and it makes me feel so very, very sad. Pull down the blinds and carry on working? What sort of attitude is that??? Certainly not Christian. Its just callous.
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  Meeting After Meeting?

  by NikL in

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  i went to the meeting today with the wife.

  same boring talk and coma inducing wt study but.... after the meeting they called all of the attendants to the back room for a little private meeting.

  anyone have any idea what was going on?

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  Meetings after meetings may be 'sinister' enough.. but what about 'meetings during meetings', this used to happen in my old congregation.

  The congregation would be sat listening to the Public Talk and down the centre aisle would come the PO, tapping this brother and that brother on the shoulder and they would all rise and go out the doors at the back of the hall for a little meeting. How disconcerting for the poor chap on the platform trying to conduct his talk! What is he supposed to think? Has he said something controversial in his talk and they have gone outside to decide what to do to him??

  This always seemed so rude, disrespectful and thoughtless, why couldn't they wait until the end of the meeting, or at least during the song? Or do they think the Public Talk does not apply to them and they are allowed to leave half way through it?? Was their little meeting that important that it could not wait for another 30 minutes or so? Or did the PO do it just to make himself look important?
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  TY for Welcome, some Questions?????

  by Cassiline in

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  thank you all for the warm welcome!

  it has been so hard living, believeing that i am an anomaly.

  i realize that there are others out there who have lived and expierenced what i have.

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  Reading the Crisis of Conscience book will go a long way to helping you come to terms with the fact that you were misled. It will help you justify your reasons for leaving and will make you realise that you did indeed make the right decision. So don't be afraid to read it, it will only strengthen your determination.

  You talk of feelings of guilt, sadness, grief and anger. I can identify with all of those feelings - I lived with the guilt of dragging my kids to the meetings, the sadness of missing out on so much with my wordly family, the grief of realising that the resurrection hope I had been taught - the hope of seeing my father again on the earth - was no longer to be trusted, and the anger....
  I have resolved all those feelings except for anger. I still feel very angry with how I was treated and how I still treated, being shunned continuously on a daily basis by people who I considered to be very good friends. I feel angry with myself as well for not investigating further the religion that I belonged to, I am angry that I was so gullible and trusting, so unaware of the rubbish I was being taught. I don't want this anger ever to disappear though, it keeps me strong and resolved never to go back. If I were to become complacent there is every danger that I may drift right back in again, it happened before and I will not let it happen again - not now that I know so much more about the organisation.

  So, welcome to Cassiline, it is good to have you here, I hope you find here what you are looking for. And please dont hesitate to ask questions - they are very welcome, even if we have heard them before!!
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  Why did you have children (or not)?

  by JustAThought in

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  ok, after reading some of the responses in the mental health and depression forum ... and of the mormons' urging of their followers to have large families, ... and participating in the discussion on the costs associated with having and raising children, ... the question comes up ... .

  for those of you with children or not, or those contemplating having children or not, ... what factors did/do you consider in making your decision (or, was there any decision-making involved)?.

  do you think children, largely, are just a by-product of sexual activity between fertile men and women, ... or are there other, deeper issues involved?.

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  individuals wife

  bboyneko.... mmm, sounds like an elder I once knew...
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  When the dubs cry

  by freeman in

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  what is it about the organization that changes seemingly normal people into carbon copies of corporate policy, changes them down to their very soul?

  how is it that loyalty to this organization can cause one to turn off natural affection between parent and child, spouses, grandparents etc.

  what exactly, specifically, is it that they do during these five weekly meetings and/or with their printed words that has such a profound and powerful effect on people.

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  I think for me part of the whole problem was that the 'truth' got to be a habit, a routine, a whole way of life that just swept you along. When I look back at the years I was in the organisation I can barely recall other events that happened to me outside of the org. The whole experience seems to have merged into one long episode of meetings, field service, assemblies and conventions. I do not really recall having much of a life outside of all that.

  When you have their information drummed into you day after day, week after week, year after year, you can become almost like a corpse walking around, you lose your own identity and I for one felt 'lifeless', as though all my spirit, all my zest for life had been sucked out of me.

  So the whole thing just turned almost into a ritual, doing the right study on the right nights, getting to the meetings, doing what was expected, fulfilling your obligations of baptism and being on the theocratic school. I stayed in because it was a comfortable routine and gave my life some order and stability..... until I started seeing the problems and started running... and running... and running. Now I have stopped running. And I stand here defiant. I have broken free of their control and I am very proud of it.
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  Lists

  by individuals wife in

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  http://members.tripod.co.uk/tenof/heartof.htm.

  liked the entry under no.3 - (especially point no.

  mind you entry nos.

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  individuals wife

  . http://members.tripod.co.uk/tenof/heartof.htm

  Liked the entry under No.3 - (especially point no. 10)

  Mind you entry nos. 8 and 9 were pretty funny too....